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prov·o·ca·tion - something that provokes, arouses, or stimulates. pant - to long eagerly; yearn. a collection of thoughts intended to provoke and inspire. these posts are hoping to encourage people to think, especially Christians, and pant even harder for the waterbrooks of the Lord. If you are not a believer in Christ Jesus, I welcome your perspective and encourage your investigation on these matters.

Sunday, December 31, 2006

The New Provocations and Pantings

The new blog site is up! Here's the information: URL: www.timmybrister.com FEED: www.timmybrister.com/feed For those of you who have been so kind to link P&P on your website or blogroll, please consider updating the link to the new website. Furthermore, those who have subscribed to this blog would want to update the feed as well given that I will no longer be posting here. At this point, I have cataloged only four months (I have 21 months total) of posts and an incomplete blogroll, but the bare necessities are there. For those of you who have WordPress blogs and have embedded technorati to your site, any tips on how to do that would be very helpful for me. I have attempted to follow the protocol provided in the FAQ but have not been able to successfully add it. Finally, let me once again say "thank you" for reading my blog. The past two years has been a valuable learning experience for me and has allowed me to meet some great people. In the months and years ahead, I pray that what the Lord leads me to do will bring Him glory and exalt His name. I hope you all have a very wonderful new year, and I hope to see you soon on the new home for Provocations and Pantings. Timmy Brister

Friday, December 29, 2006

A New Year, A New Home for Provocations and Pantings

For the past twelve months, I have contemplated numerous times leaving Blogger but either didn't have the time or the fortitude to follow through with it. I have enjoyed Blogger and the services it provides, but I feel that it is time to move on. For the next three or four days, I will be preparing the new site for Provocations and Pantings. This blog will still exist, but I must mention that the formatting has seriously been affected in a recently failed attempt at backing up my blogposts. Needless to say, it was a disaster and proved to be a final motivation for trying something else. The new blog will have approximately 60% of the posts from the archives, hoping to keep the more important and relevant posts for cataloging and tagging. The first post on the new blog will be on January 1, 2007. By the end of next week, I hope to have all the posts on the new blog filed and cataloged. One of the problems I am facing is the loss of all images, YouTube videos, and minor formatting issues upon importing my old posts. I also have a very basic template at this moment as I am still trying to learn my options and create an aesthetically pleasing yet fully functional blog. For those wondering, there are several things that prompted my departure from Blogger: 1. There are several formatting issues with Blogger when going between IE, Firefox, and other browsers where margins, fonts, and graphics are inconsistent at best and nonexistent at worst. 2. When I changed the comment policy to not allow anonymous comments, the only people who could comment were those who obtained a Blogger account (a relatively small number of blog readers). Consequently, significant conversation and discussion was relegated to a privileged few rather than everyone. With the new blog, all you will have to have is an email address to comment, making it available to virtually everyone. 3. Several times throughout the year, Blogger went down for maintenance, sometimes for days. Given the nature of blogging and timeliness of its medium, an unreliable server can defeat the purpose or at least minimalize the effectiveness of blogging. 4. There are several widgets I prefer to have such as having the ability to catalog and file posts, view archives in various ways, manage posts, and customize domains. 5. Finally, I simply think that there are other blog providers who offer more powerful tools which are easily accessible to accomplish what I am looking to do in the future. As I learn more about how to write and use the medium of blogging to facilitate a platform for the presentation of my thoughts and convictions, I will continue to search for ways to communicate unchanging truth in our transient times. With that said, I recollect on my first days with Blogger when I did not know how to hyperlink or post a picture. While I cannot say that I am a veteran blogger, I can at least pretend like I am now, thanks to Blogger. So signing off Blogger with two years and 875 posts full of learning and reflecting, Timmy Brister

Tuesday, December 26, 2006

End of the Year Blog Reader Survey

As I mentioned a couple of days ago, I have put together an end-of-the-year blog survey for blog readers. I know you probably have a million more important things to do this week than answer these questions, but should you choose to fill out this survey, it would be a HUGE help. Here's how you can send in your survey: 1. The easiest way I can think to do this is to copy and paste the questions in a Word document, supply your answers to the questions, and email the document back to me whenever it is completed. If you cannot attach the survey in a Word document, simply include it in the body of your email. 2. If you have a Blogger account, you can answer the questions in the comments section of this blogpost (if you care to have your answers read by the public). Here's the questions. They are divided into two sections: General/Objective (basic info) and Specific/Subjective (your personal feedback).

General/Objective

  1. Do you own a blog?
  2. How long have you been reading blogs?
  3. How many blogs do you read regularly?
  4. How often do you read blogs?
  5. Do you subscribe to blogs (either through RSS/ATOM/XML)?
  6. What browser do you use (e.g. Internet Explorer, Firefox, etc.)?

Specific/Subjective

  1. What are some things you are looking for in a blog? In a blogger?
  2. What would you recommend for better blogging in the future?
  3. Do you believe blogging has made any impact on culture, church, or Christianity?
  4. What do you see are the greatest benefits of blogs?
  5. What do you see are the greatest dangers regarding blogs?
  6. What style of blogging do you prefer (e.g. personal/interactive/disclosure or impersonal/reporter-like/no disclosure)?
  7. What form or genre of blogs do you enjoy the most (news/reporting, personal commentary, culture watchdogs, theological/doctrinal, photography, satire/parody, or content-specific)?
  8. Do you believe blogging has a promising future? In other words, do you see blogging as a tool to be used or a trend that is useless? Please explain.
  9. Finally, do you regret the time you have spent reading blogs, or do you feel that you have benefited from them?

Thank you very much for helping me better understand the phenomena of blogging and how it relates to me as a blogger, you as a reader, and all of us as we aim to glorify God. From the feedback I hope to receive from this survey, I believe that I will learn a great deal from you guys!

Sunday, December 24, 2006

My Lord and My God

"It will be said on that day, 'Behold, this is our God; we have waited for him, that he might save us. This is the LORD; we have waited for him; let us be glad and rejoice in his salvation.'" "you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." And the angel said to them, "Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of a great joy that will be for all the people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord." "But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons." Merry Christmas! Isaiah 25:9; Matt. 1:21; Luke 2:10-11; Gal. 4:4

Saturday, December 23, 2006

Upcoming Blog Survey

As I begin to reflect on the past year in blogging, I have noticed how my blogging has changed, where I have grown, lessons I have learned, new friendships forged, and many encouraging moments along the way. One of the most important aspects of blogging I believe is self-critique. Therefore, I am asking for yours. On Tuesday, December 26, I am going to post a series of questions for those of you who read my blog. I realize that many if not most of you don't have a Blogger account and don't comment; therefore, if you are willing and have the time, I asking that you copy and paste the questions in a Word document, answer them as you wish, and attach the document in an email. Here is my email address. Again, I sincerely value your correspondence and feedback as I look forward for 2007 and learning how I can better blog and glorify God. Thank you for taking the time to do this, as I know that I will greatly benefit from the thoughts, comments, and suggestions you will provide. At the start of the new year, I hope to share with you some of the changes and formattting of P&P that I think will provide more variety and substance. And for those of you who have stuck around, read, dicussed, and prayed for me, let me express my gratitude to God for you. Furthermore, to those of you who have been my harshest critics, thank you for helping me see the areas where I need to grow, repent, and be more conformed into the image of my Savior. In whatever intent or rationale those words were packaged, know that I receive them as a gift from God. tnb

Friday, December 22, 2006

POTW :: 12.22.06 :: oneway

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This is a photo of a street sign in downtown Quito, Ecuador taken at the close of our mission trip/culture study from earlier this year. I thought it would be fitting in light of recent posts and the timeliness of the season. Well, after eight weeks, about 30 phone calls (the last three being with the President and CEO of the company), I finally got my laptop back today. Now the tricky part comes in trying to reinstall the two hard drives. If all works, I hope to post some photos, especially from this past week's wedding. I also hope to post some from the trip to the North Shore and Apostle Islands as well. Some random mentionings: Dock, you are a stud. Any person who flies to Rome to propose to his woman at St. Peter's square gets an "A" in my book. Mr. Risner, congrats on your graduation . . . and for telling the pilot that I wear depends. (Almost) Congressman Hughes, thanks for choosing to be the editor of P&P rather than a U.S. Congressman. I need you more than the 2nd Congressional District (and I promise, I will change my profile pic soon). And to the other three people who still read my blog, thanks for giving me that warm fuzzy feeling inside. And to Mr. "Charles" of the flyswatter, I moved a lot of boxes for you at UPS this week. In case you still read my blog, I hope I made you proud. I guess that's it for this week. Much love and Merry Christmas! tnb

Thursday, December 21, 2006

Resources for Gospel-Centered Living

When Nathan Finn reiterated what Tom Ascol has been saying for years (namely that the Southern Baptist Convention's greatest problem and encroaching danger is the loss of the gospel), I began to think about how to reorient ourselves so that we can be dialed into the message and person of Jesus Christ. The first step is to treasure the gospel and preach it to myself on a regular basis. One of the ways I try to do this is by reading books and articles, as well as listening to sermons related to the gospel. During the past week, I have compiled some resources that have greatly helped me in my pursuit to live a gospel-centered life and I want to recommend them to you. Of course, this list is incomplete. However, I will be updating this post on a regular basis as new media, books, and articles become available. In the meantime, I will provide this post on my sidebar under the "my stuff" section. If you have any resources that I can add to this list which you believe would help us believe, live, and treasure the gospel of Jesus Christ, please pass it on. May the God of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ cause our hearts to behold His glory in the face of His Son, and allow us to affectionately live out our lives "in a manner worthy of the gospel of Jesus Christ." The Cross Centered Life: Keeping the Gospel the Main Thing Author: C.J. Mahaney Publisher: Multnomah Publishing Date: October 1, 2002 Pages: 96 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-5905-20459 Retail Price: $9.99 Living the Cross Centered Life: Keeping the Gospel the Main Thing Author: C.J. Mahaney Publisher: Multnomah Publishing Date: January 19, 2006 Pages: 176 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-5905-25787 Retail Price: $12.99 Christ Our Mediator: Finding Passion at the Cross Author: C.J. Mahaney Publisher: Multnomah Publishing Date: September 21, 2004 Pages: 96 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-5905-23644 Retail Price: $9.99 This Great Salvation: Unmerited Favor, Unmatched Joy Author: C.J. Mahaney and Robin Boisvert Publisher: Sovereign Grace Ministries Publishing Date: September 1993 Pages: 95 Format: Paperback ISBN: 1-8810-39013 Retail Price: $8.99 The Discipline of Grace: God's Role and Our Role in the Pursuit of Holiness Author: Jerry Bridges Publisher: NavPress Publishing Date: May 5, 2006 Pages: 256 Format: Softcover ISBN: 1-5768-39893 Retail Price: $13.99 The Gospel for Real Life (w/ Study Guide) Author: Jerry Bridges Publisher: NavPress Publishing Date: October 2003 Pages: 208 Format: Paperback ISBN: 1-5768-35073 Retail Price: $11.99 God Is the Gospel: Meditations on God's Love as the Gift of Himself Author: John Piper Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: September 8, 2005 Pages: 192 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-5813-47510 Retail Price: $17.99 Don't Waste Your Life Author: John Piper Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: May 16, 2003 Pages: 192 Format: Softcover ISBN: 1-5813-44988 Retail Price: $13.99 The Great Work of the Gospel: How We Experience God's Grace Author: John Ensor Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: May 8, 2006 Pages: 192 Format: Paperback ISBN: 1-5813-47731 Retail Price: $14.99 Gospel Conversation Author: Jeremiah Burroughs Publisher: Soli Deo Gloria Publishing Date: September 1997 Pages: 305 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-8776-11913 Retail Price: $n/a The Cross of Christ Author: John R.W. Stott Publisher: InterVarsity Publishing Date: September 30, 2006 Pages: 380 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 0-8308-3320X Retail Price: $25.00 The Gospel According to Jesus Author: John MacArthur Publisher: Zondervan Publishing Date: March 18, 1994 Pages: 304 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-310-394910 Retail Price: $14.99 The Gospel According to the Apostles Author: John MacArthur Publisher: Nelson Publishing Date: March 8, 2005 Pages: 272 Format: Softcover ISBN: 0-7852-71805 Retail Price: $13.99 Hard to Believe: The High Cost and Infinite Value of Following Jesus Author: John MacArthur Publisher: Nelson Publishing Date: November 13, 2003 Pages: 240 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 0-7852-63454 Retail Price: $22.99 The Christian Life: A Doctrinal Introduction Author: Sinclair B. Ferguson Publisher: Banner of Truth Publishing Date: December 1996 Pages: 240 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8515-15169 Retail Price: $9.99 Saved by Grace Author: Anthony A. Hoekema Publisher: Eerdmans Publishing Date: October 1994 Pages: 290 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8028-08573 Retail Price: $22.00 The Message of Salvation: By God's Grace, for God's Glory Author: Phillip G. Ryken Publisher: InterVarsity Publishing Date: December 1996 Pages: 314 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8308-24049 Retail Price: $17.00 Saving Grace Author: John Cheeseman Publisher: Banner of Truth Publishing Date: March 2000 Pages: 136 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8515-17722 Retail Price: $7.99 Tell the Truth: The Whole Gospel to the Whole Person by Whole People Author: Will Metzger Publisher: InterVarsity Publishing Date: November 2002 Pages: 216 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8308-23220 Retail Price: $15.00 Whatever Happened to the Gospel of Grace?: Rediscovering the Doctrines that Shook the World Author: James Montgomery Boice Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: February 7, 2001 Pages: 224 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 1-5813-42373 Retail Price: $17.99 The Glory of God's Grace Author: James Montgomery Boice Publisher: Kregel Publishing Date: March 30, 1999 Pages: 296 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8254-20725 Retail Price: $13.99 The Soulwinner Author: Charles Spurgeon Publisher: Whitaker Publishing Date: October 2001 Pages: 302 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8836-87097 Retail Price: $12.99 Getting the Gospel Right: The Tie That Binds Evangelicals Together Author: R.C. Sproul Publisher: Baker Publishing Date: September 1999 Pages: 207 Format: Hardcover ISBN: 0-8010-11884 Retail Price: $22.99 Grace Walk: What You've Always Wanted in the Christian Life . . . Author: Steve McVey Publisher: Harvest House Publishing Date: May 1, 2005 Pages: 192 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-7369-16393 Retail Price: $11.99 Grace Rules: Living in the Kingdom of God Where Author: Steve McVey Publisher: Harvest House Publishing Date: July 1, 1998 Pages: 208 Format: Paperback ISBN: 1-5650-78977 Retail Price: $11.99 The Deliberate Church: Building Your Ministry on the Gospel Author: Mark Dever and Paul Alexander Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: September 9, 2005 Pages: 224 Format: Paperback ISBN: 1-5813-47383 Retail Price: $14.99 Evangelism and the Sovereignty of God Author: J. I. Packer Publisher: InterVarsity Publishing Date: November 1991 Pages: 126 Format: Paperback ISBN: 0-8308-1339X Retail Price: $12.00 The Gospel Worthy of All Acception, or, The Duty to Believe in Jesus Christ Author: Andrew Fuller Publisher: Sovereign Grace Publishers Publishing Date: 1961 Pages: 288 Format: n/a ISBN: n/a Retail Price: $n/a Part 1 & 2 available here An Inquiry into the Obligations of Christians, to Use of Means for the Conversion of the Heathens: In which the Religious State of the Different Nations of the World, the Success of Former Undertakings, and the Practicability of further Undertakings, Are Considered Author: William Carey Publisher: n/a Publishing Date: n/a Pages: n/a Format: n/a ISBN: n/a Retail Price: $n/a Available Here ************* Multimedia (From Monergism.com and other places)

What is the Gospel? And How Does it Shape our Lives? by Tim Keller with .pdf study guides and vision papers

The Gospel by Tim Keller Tim Keller "The Gospel" Sermons 1. Who is Jesus? 2. Lord of the Wine 3. Born of the Gospel Tim Keller on "Preaching the Gospel" Tim Keller on Desiring God Conference: "The Sufficiency of Christ and the Gospel in the Postmodern World" How the Gospel Came to Paul by Phil Johnson Good News Dr. Mark Dever (Streaming Audio) Basic Christianity: Justification Romans 3 Dr. Mark Dever (Streaming Audio) The Essence of the Gospel by Joel Beeke The Gospel Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV, Part V by HeartCry Missionary

Blogs: Together for the Gospel (Mark, Al, Lig, C.J.) Gospel Driven Life (Mark Lauterbach) Eucatastrophe (Dan Cruver) Articles: T4G Statement of Faith The Gospel of Jesus Christ: An Evangelical Celebration Paul Adams 13-part commentary of TGJC:AEC
Introduction: History and Significance The Provision of the Gospel, Part II
The Nature of the Gospel The Triumph of the Gospel, Part I
The Supposition of the Gospel The Triumph of the Gospel, Part II
The Span of the Gospel The Application of the Gospel, Part I
The Selectivity of the Gospel The Application of the Gospel, Part II
The Person of the Gospel The Application of the Gospel, Part III
The Provision of the Gospel, Part I
Tim Keller on "Advancing the Gospel into the 21st Century" Part I: Church Multiplying Part II: Gospel-Centered Part III: Context Sensitive Part IV: City-Focused Strategy Tim Keller on "The Gospel: Key to Change" (vision paper) Tim Keller on "The Centrality of the Gospel" MORE TO COME . . . CHECK BACK LATER!

Wednesday, December 20, 2006

Book Alert: Chosen for Life

One of the programming changes at P&P is to mention some new book releases that I think are important reads. Unfortunately, many bookstores don’t agree with me, and more than likely you will not find these on the front shelves. Because of that, I want to put them on the front shelf of my blog (so to speak) and encourage you to consider them as future reads.

Title: Chosen for Life: The Case for Divine Election Author: C. Samuel Storms Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: February 12, 2007 Pages: 240 Format: Trade Paperback ISBN: 1-5813-48436 Retail Price: $17.99

From Crossway:

Divine election is certainly one of the more profound—and controversial—doctrines in the Bible. Does God elect people because they believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, or does God elect people in order that they will believe in Christ? Much of the disagreement and controversy concerning this doctrine proceeds from a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means.

This is why Storms begins his analysis of divine election with an attempt to clarify precisely what is at stake and, at the same time, correct misrepresentations of it. He takes a thorough look at the doctrine as it is presented in Romans 9 as well as the rest of the New Testament. He also explores freedom of will and the order of salvation. Appendixes address “Three Problem Passages” and “Who Can and Cannot Pray for God to Save the Lost?”

Sam Storms leads "Enjoying God Ministries" which provides biblical and theological resources that aim to "proclaim the power of truth and truth about power." To purchase @ Crossway, go here. To purchase @ Amazon, go here.

Tuesday, December 19, 2006

Paul Helm's Deep Theology - Blog Style

Justin Taylor informs us that Paul Helm has a blog where he is providing many of his papers. If you don't know Helm, he is a fantastic scholar and has written some excellent books (I have read The Providence of God and some of Faith and Understanding). I have been really encouraged this past year with many professors entering the blogosphere to provide their scholarship to the masses of those who would never read a scholarly journal or attending their seminary class. This is what it is all about. Now, of course, there are some profs who wouldn't dare stoop to converse with such unqualified thinkers on the internet, but I find these guys quickly moving to the periphery and missing a moment where technology and a passion for the truth are coming together to inform and transform people's thinking at a level unprecedented in recent history. With that said, I am really looking forward to reading more from Helm. If you can remember, I wrote a little on anthropopathisms and anthropomorphisms in dealing with the omnibenevolence of God earlier this year. One of the articles Helm already has online is called "Anthropomorphism Protestant Style" and encourage you to check it out. He addresses a wide swath of theologians, including Turretin, Calvin, Edwards, and Bavinck on one hand and Swinburne and Wolterstorff on the other. Helm mentions some future posts, including: "The Calvinist Concept of God" (January) "Three Replies: to Roger Olson, John Sanders and Bruce Ware" (February) "Karl Barth and the Visibility of God" (March) "'No Easy Task': John R Franke and the Character of Theology" (April)

Monday, December 18, 2006

On Handling a Doubting Christian

Suppose a Christian came to you with doubts concerning their salvation, requesting counsel and help from you. How would you direct that person? I believe this is an important question to ask because it is on this matter I believe many professing Christians have been led into a whirlwind of confusion, some having "rededicated" their lives and been "rebaptized" several times. Furthermore, there are some evangelists who will tell you that at any given moment if you are having any doubts, then you need to "nail it down," for as one traveling preacher in the SBC says, "it is better to be saved twice than to be lost once." Obviously, such terrible counsel is not helpful for a person battling with doubt! So what say you? How would you handle a Christian doubting their salvation? Any helpful or pastoral words you can share?

Sunday, December 17, 2006

The Heart of a Scholar Missionary

When I was in college, we had interviews with the Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions for what they called the "board of aid" scholarship. In these interviews, they would often ask about what we were called to do in ministry. I often struggled with this question because I felt that I would be responding presumptuously, assuming that I had a fixed agenda on God's purpose for my life. However, feeling that I needed to provide a response, I decided to answer by telling them that I believe God is leading me to be a scholar missionary. "What is a scholar missionary?" you might ask. Well, I really don't know exactly what one is, but I can point you to one that does a good job of resembling the heart of what I believe a scholar missionary looks like. Dr. David Sills, asscoiate professor of Christian Missions and Cultural Anthropology here at Southern, is a man whom I have had the privilege of knowing and learning both from academic and personal levels. In a recent blogpost, Dr. Sills shares something that I often feel in my own heart. Here's an except:

Back in the USA, I teach in one of the best theological seminaries in the world. I rub shoulders on a daily basis with some of the most brilliant evangelical scholars in the world—both professors and students alike. I can walk from my office and in two minutes be in one of the best theological libraries in the world. Spending my days in this environment makes it so easy for me to slip into a mode that assumes far too much. How it grieves my heart when I find humble believers and Christian workers like this precious sister who struggle on with no books, no formal training, and the constant attack of false teaching. When I walk through the door in my stateside classroom or in my church, people often greet me with smiles, pats on the back, compliments, and requests for my time or opinion. It feeds the flesh and makes me feel useful. When I have the opportunity to meet with these humble, Bible-hungry believers, I find it hard to leave. And, when I do leave and return to my highly academic comfort zone, it seems a little like taking a seat on a lifeboat and deserting those going down on the Titanic. I sometimes wonder about the greeting I will get when I walk through the door to heaven. I know I will see the Fortunatas, and that they will forgive me, but I wonder about those who never heard at all.
I wonder too, Dr. Sills. On an academic side, there is a great need of biblically conservative missiologists and first-rate scholarship for the defense and propagation of the gospel of Jesus Christ; but on the other side, there is a tantamount need for teaching, training, and working among the unreached peoples of the world. The answer as I see it is not either/or but both/and. In this upcoming generation of Christians, we need a great move of God for the purpose of reaching the peoples with the unchanging gospel of Jesus Christ, but we also need astute, uncompromising, and humble scholarship which contends for the gospel against pluralism, syncretism, ecumenism, liberalism, and all those other -isms' that seek to neuter, alter, or destroy the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And this is why I believe we need more scholar missionaries who will communicate the heart of God to the hearts of those who have never heard. May God bring an outpouring of His Spirit to bring fame to His name with an unfliching passion for the truth, for the gospel, and for the Church which he has redeemed with His precious blood.

Saturday, December 16, 2006

Would Jesus Shop at Wal-Mart?

Brothers, We Are Not Propagandists What do you think about this???

Friday, December 15, 2006

POTW :: 12.15.06 :: heldinsuspense

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This photo was taken at one of the first weddings I had ever taken. Most of my favorite shots come from totally random moments (the benefits of photojournalistic style). I am not a very good, "Okay, let's get everyone together for some formals" kind of photographer. Speaking of wedding photography, I thought I share with you where I get a lot of my inspiration. Below is my top 10 favorite wedding photographers. If you are interested in photography, you ought to check out their portfolios as they are not just good wedding photographers, but in my opinion produce some of the best work around. They are all members of the Digital Wedding Forum--the "everything you ever want to know about photography" place I have been privileged to be a member of. So here is my top ten (though there are many more): 1. David Beckstead 2. The Becker 3. Yervant 4. Todd Pellowe 5. Todd Johnson 6. Huy Nguyen 7. Jeff Ascough 8. Gordon McGowan 9. Ventana Weddings 10. JVS Weddings My Flickr Page :: Flickr Friday Photo Group

Thursday, December 14, 2006

Book Alert: Only One Way?

One of the programming changes at P&P is to mention some new book releases that I think are important reads. Unfortunately, many bookstores don’t agree with me, and more than likely you will not find these on the front shelves either. Therefore, I want to put them on the front shelf of my blog so to speak and encourage you to consider them as future reads. Title: Only One Way?: Reaffirming the Exclusive Truth Claims of Christianity Editor: Richard D. Phillips Contributing Authors: David F. Wells, D. A. Carson, Peter Jones, Philip Graham Ryken, J. Ligon Duncan Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: February 12, 2007 Pages: 144 Format: Trade Paperback ISBN: 1-58134-8010 Retail Price: $12.99 From Crossway:

Centuries ago Christ made a claim that disconcerts as many today as it did then—he is the way of salvation. Ironically, he spoke these words to comfort his disciples on the night of his arrest. Richard Phillips is just one of six highly respected authors seeking to reaffirm these comforting words and other exclusive claims of Christianity for today’s reader.

Each chapter proclaims, defends, and explains the Christian truths that are most directly challenged by postmodern relativism. Our God is the God; Jesus is not merely a savior, but the only Savior; and the truth revealed in the Bible is divine truth. As readers grasp these essential ideas and their implications they will be able to witness powerfully by articulating these claims with clarity, conviction, and love.

This is but one of two really anticipated books coming out in 2007 dealing with religious pluralism (the other by InterVarsity). Crossway has assembled some top-notch evangelical scholars, and I look forward to reading and reviewing this book upon release. Excerpts and front matter should be available by Crossway in PDF sometime in the future. I have read from Carson (here), Wells (here), and Ryken (here) on the subject matter and look forward to this offering. This is yet one more reason why I believe Crossway is one of the best publishing houses around.

To purchase @ Crossway, go here. To purchase @ Amazon, go here.

Wednesday, December 13, 2006

Roman Catholic Inclusivism Presented by Father Michael Manning

Side Note 1: As you already know, Christmas shopping is full force, which means Christmas shipping is also kicking in stride. Working at the UPS hub, therefore, means double shifting (10 hours a day) every day this week and very little down time. That said, I am not sure how regular my posting will be. Side Note 2: As you can see, the theme for P&P lately has been inclusivism, given that I have spent considerable time thinking through and responding to these issues. In this video clip, you hear a classic response from a Roman Catholic theologian (Father Michael Manning) on Larry King. This is typical Vatican II doctrine regarding Christ and other religions. Many theologians consider Vatican II to be a "watershed moment" regarding Christianity and other religions, and Clark Pinnock as well as other evangelical inclusivists look admirably to Vatican II as a forerunner or precursor to what they are hoping to accomplish in evangelical circles. What Father Manning is saying is not far off from from some evangelicals today (however, I would argue that the title "evangelical inclusivists" is highly suspect and somewhat contradictory). Side Note 3: My next post will deal with a sermon Nelson Price preached at FBC Woodstock a couple of weeks ago dealing with the fate of the unevangelized. He comes up with the concept of "god-consciousness" which I would like to discuss. So if you are interested in listening to it ahead of time, go here and view/listen for yourself. I would be interested in your thoughts on his presentation.

Tuesday, December 12, 2006

Piper on "What Happens to Those Who Have Never Heard the Gospel?"

On August 18, 2006, Desiring God Radio and John Piper addressed the topic, "What Happens to Those Who Have Never Heard the Gospel?" As the website states,

The issue of what happens to those who have never heard about Jesus Christ is a question many people ask. As R.C. Sproul has noted, sometimes the question is phrased this way: "What happens to the innocent person in the middle of Africa who has never heard about Jesus Christ?" Fortunately, as Sproul points out, the innocent person has nothing to fear. The problem is that there are no innocent people--anywhere.
To listen to the short audio commentary of Dr. Piper, click here. Note: Though many if not most all of you agree with Dr. Piper, there are those in the "wider hope" camp who argue for post-mortem encounter, eschatological evangelization, anonymous Christians, pre-messianic believers, and holy pagans--all "saved" outside of the knowledge of Christ, outside the Church, and apart from gospel mission. Therefore, it is incredibly important to have the biblical account presented as Dr. Piper has. Let us, as he concluded, labor to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to every tongue, every tribe, and every people, for His fame and the glory of His name!

Monday, December 11, 2006

Being Saved: Dr. Mohler vs. Rabbi Kushner and Father Byron

Here is inclusivism in living color. And this is also why I attend Southern Seminary. Thank God for men like Dr. Mohler and the faithful, clear, and unapologetic presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Sunday, December 10, 2006

Nathan Finn on What Ails the SBC

Nathan Finn, adjunct instructor at Southeastern College, has written an excellent series called "Some Possible Solutions for What Ails the SBC." Below are the links to all 16 posts in this series. Finn explains that the series began when he first wrote a post called, "Why I Don't Want to be a Southern Baptist Sometimes" and Wayne Hatcher commented with a word of exhortation:

Beautiful post. Perfect biting wit. All sad, but true, with hope and promise at the end. Now, follow up with a post listing what you intend to do to correct the problems; not a convention-wide approach, but what you (and we) can do, in one Sunday-school class, one church, one community, one life.
So for the last two months, Finn has been giving his exposition of the points laid out in his initial post, and I must say that it is rare to find such clear, critical thinking in the SBC. There are many SBC bloggers out and about these days--some who are involved politically in the power-grab of the Convention, others delving into theological issues, and yet more who simply write about what is going on in their church or sharing their sermon manuscripts. I suppose that all these have their rightful place, but Finn has done an exceptional thing by transcending the trench-type blogging and given us a big-picture layout of the landscape of the SBC, where the battlelines are being drawn, where the booby traps are being placed, and where we as a Convention can keep ourselves from getting stuck in our own civil war. If we as a Convention are going to experience success on the ground, we must get on the frontlines and not get distracted with silly issues which are not the problem (e.g. alcohol, Calvinism, etc.). From some in our elder generation who have fought for the Conservative Resurgence, we have much to be thankful. However, it is some of these same fighters who are looking for new theological or ecclesiological hills to die on. The future of the Convention will depend upon the wisdom and discernment to know what the real issues are, contrary to how some want us to think. As this younger generation of Southern Baptists is being marshalled onto the current battleground of the SBC, there will be some familiar trenches we will need to dig in and fight for (inerrancy, exclusivity of Christ, etc.). There will also be posts that we need to abandon, however (I will let you figure out what some of those are). In any case, Finn has done us all a service by giving us some good material to think about and discuss in the days ahead. Here are his posts in the order he wrote them: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13.1 13.2 14.1 14.2 So what was Finn's conclusion to the greatest problem in the SBC? Here's his answer:
"The biggest problem in the SBC is our loss of the gospel. It is pervasive. It is often subtle. It is likely accidental, or at least it has not been deliberate. And it is a tragedy. . . . In many corners of the SBC, the gospel has either been redefined, dumbed-down, confused, prostituted, or downplayed. Again, I think almost none of this is deliberate. But it has happened."
So where do we begin? We begin with the gospel. I suspect the future of our Convention lies not in the political prowess of the SBC elite or the erudite academia of our well-esteemed seminaries or even whether we blow the shofar in our next annual meeting. Rather it lies in every local church committing themselves to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Believing it. Teaching it. Living it. And glorying in it. Let us labor to that end. Selah

Saturday, December 09, 2006

What Are You Reading Over the Holidays?

I am always interested in what people are reading at any given point in time. Since many of you are students like me, I was wondering what you are reading over the Christmas break. If you are not a student, of course I would love to know what you are currently reading as well. During the break, I will be working through a series of books that target sin in my life. Devotionally, I slowly reading through Overcoming Sin & Temptation edited by Kelly Kapic and Justin Taylor. I have read On Mortification but not Of Temptation or Indwelling Sin. I am encouraged and hopeful that God will do great things in my heart and life through this book. Three other books I have planned on reading are (in order): A Fight to the Death: Taking Aim at Sin Within by Wayne A. Mack with Joshua Mack, Precious Remedies Against Satan's Devices by Thomas Brooks, and Holiness by J.C. Ryle. One other secondary reading goal I have is to finish reading journal articles regarding inclusivism as well as peruse some material that deals with Christian's attitudes toward other religions, tolerance, and truth. On the docket I have in mind such authors as Hendrik Kraemer, Ajith Fernando, Winfried Corduan, Stephen Neill, and Howard Netland. So now it's your turn. What are you reading over the holidays? Any recently read books that you would recommend?

Friday, December 08, 2006

X-Rated X-Mas: Pornaments and the Gift of Christmas

Catching the news this afternoon, I came across a story that was quite disturbing to me. Spencer Gifts, the store in the mall which caters to the depravity of man, is selling what they call “pornaments.” They are offering 18 different kinds of sexually explicit (X-rated) ornaments depicting reindeer, candy man, snow men, and Mr. and Mrs. North Pole. On the candy man and woman, a caption states,

“His and hers cookie people! What else will they think of next? If you thought ginger was the spiciest thing on the menu this holiday, guess again. These little sexy peeps will raise the cheer of any grumpy queer!”
Some of the stores are showcasing these ornaments on their front window where families and little children pass by in the malls. At this time every year, there is the inevitable “war over Christmas” where secularism is seeking to remove Christ from Christmas. I am not sure where “pornaments” fit in the war on Christmas, but I can tell you that the reason the Son of God clothed himself with humanity was to identify with such sinners and ultimately die for them. Spencer’s has a slogan which pronounces, “Life’s a Party! We’re makin’ it fun!” As Christians, we need to be reminded that “Life Is War,” and we are here to lay down our lives so that those who think life is fun can see the superior pleasures and infinite worth of knowing Jesus Christ. Spencer’s party will soon come to an end, and terror and torment of an everlasting hell awaits those who believe and live as though Christmas is just a gag gift. No, Christmas is about the supreme gift of God’s Son and the free gift of eternal life which comes only through him. When such sinners understand the real meaning of Christmas by knowing and treasuring Jesus Christ, they will come to know that he has given us life abundantly and a party that will last for an eternity. Indeed, the greatest gift ever given will never be found under a tree but on a tree - a tree called Calvary where the curse of sin was embodied (Gal. 3:13) and the justice of God's wrath was appeased and atoned for by the blood of Jesus Christ (Isa. 53:4-6). Let us pray that, during this Christmas season, those who are making pornaments will meet the Maker of heaven and earth, Immanuel, Son of God, Jesus. "He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed." - 1 Peter 2:24 To watch a Christian youth group protest, go here. To read what the news are saying go here.

POTW :: 12.08.06 :: surreal

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Alright. I am about to be a little random here on my weekly POTW post. Please bear with me. First of all, I still don't have my laptop. I wrestled with whether or not to file a complaint with BBB concerning the company who I purchased the laptop from, but I am not that type of guy. But a 1-2 week guarantee has turned into 6 weeks now with no certain return date in the near future! One of the reasons I went with them is because of their high reseller rating and customer service reviews. I guess my situation is an anomaly (at least I hope so). They also state that their purpose in their business is "to become the nations' #1 provider of the products and services that we offer while offering this business up to our Lord Jesus daily as we try to represent how He would want us to live, do business, and share all that He has done in our lives with anyone who comes our way." As a customer, I am hoping to honor Christ by not being a total jerk. But I really would like to have my laptop back sometime . . . Sometime soon, because next weekend, I will be shooting a wedding in Alabama. This will be my second wedding this fall and only my fifth this year (last year I shot around 15). My camera is also still dysfunctional. I figured out the problem, though. The pins which connect the CF card to the camera are bent in two places and I cannot reach them to straighten them out (I probably shouldn't anyway). So I am trying to get it to an authorized Canon technician hoping that it wouldn't be too big of a deal. I really miss taking pictures. :( Which brings me to my third random thought and the setting of this week's photo. The photo was taken on the riverfront in downtown Louisville with a really cold WB (2800K) (for non-photographers, white balance determines the kind of light the camera reads - e.g. flourescent, tungsten, sun, shade, etc.). Anyway, Dan shared with me yesterday that Louisville is getting a new skyscraper called the Museum Plaza which is fascinating to look at. It is a 61 story of three towers that will have an "acre island" hovering 22 stories in the air. Not only that, but it will contain a contemporary art museum, restaurants and retail stores, 85 luxury condominiums, 150 lofts, a 300-room hotel, office space and a 1,100-car underground parking garage. Now, I must say from the superimposed photos, this behemoth sticks out like a sore thumb in the skyline. However, it gives me new incentive to get out and take more pics of downtown Louisville (which have been some of my more popular photos among locals). I guess that wasn't too random. Did I tell you that all I want for Christmas is my 16 gig? That baby is hot! Shooting RAW, I could still knock out about 1700 on one memory card! Oh, and have you checked out the new Extreme IV cards? Man I am a photog junkie. Maybe things can get fixed soon enough to add a little more spice to P&P in the future. In the meantime, I hope you have a wonderful weekend and a Christ-centered holiday season. tnb ** To view my stagnant Flickr page, go here, and for the Friday Photo Group, go here.

 
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Title: Chosen for Life: The Case for Divine Election Author: C. Samuel Storms Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: February 12, 2007 Pages: 240 Format: Trade Paperback ISBN: 1-5813-48436 Retail Price: $17.99

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This is why Storms begins his analysis of divine election with an attempt to clarify precisely what is at stake and, at the same time, correct misrepresentations of it. He takes a thorough look at the doctrine as it is presented in Romans 9 as well as the rest of the New Testament. He also explores freedom of will and the order of salvation. Appendixes address “Three Problem Passages” and “Who Can and Cannot Pray for God to Save the Lost?”

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|W|P|116664483653337417|W|P|Book Alert: Chosen for Life|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/19/2006 02:25:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Justin Taylor informs us that Paul Helm has a blog where he is providing many of his papers. If you don't know Helm, he is a fantastic scholar and has written some excellent books (I have read The Providence of God and some of Faith and Understanding). I have been really encouraged this past year with many professors entering the blogosphere to provide their scholarship to the masses of those who would never read a scholarly journal or attending their seminary class. This is what it is all about. Now, of course, there are some profs who wouldn't dare stoop to converse with such unqualified thinkers on the internet, but I find these guys quickly moving to the periphery and missing a moment where technology and a passion for the truth are coming together to inform and transform people's thinking at a level unprecedented in recent history. With that said, I am really looking forward to reading more from Helm. If you can remember, I wrote a little on anthropopathisms and anthropomorphisms in dealing with the omnibenevolence of God earlier this year. One of the articles Helm already has online is called "Anthropomorphism Protestant Style" and encourage you to check it out. He addresses a wide swath of theologians, including Turretin, Calvin, Edwards, and Bavinck on one hand and Swinburne and Wolterstorff on the other. Helm mentions some future posts, including: "The Calvinist Concept of God" (January) "Three Replies: to Roger Olson, John Sanders and Bruce Ware" (February) "Karl Barth and the Visibility of God" (March) "'No Easy Task': John R Franke and the Character of Theology" (April) |W|P|116655638609545310|W|P|Paul Helm's Deep Theology - Blog Style|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/18/2006 02:34:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Suppose a Christian came to you with doubts concerning their salvation, requesting counsel and help from you. How would you direct that person? I believe this is an important question to ask because it is on this matter I believe many professing Christians have been led into a whirlwind of confusion, some having "rededicated" their lives and been "rebaptized" several times. Furthermore, there are some evangelists who will tell you that at any given moment if you are having any doubts, then you need to "nail it down," for as one traveling preacher in the SBC says, "it is better to be saved twice than to be lost once." Obviously, such terrible counsel is not helpful for a person battling with doubt! So what say you? How would you handle a Christian doubting their salvation? Any helpful or pastoral words you can share?|W|P|116647084094728332|W|P|On Handling a Doubting Christian|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/18/2006 03:58:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Scott Welch|W|P|This is just a start, but I heard RC Sproul say once that the fact that anyone is doubting and concerned is a good sign. Most unbelievers aren't too concerned if they are really saved or not.12/18/2006 04:54:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Daniel|W|P|timmy, i think our identification with Christ (ie salvation) has both a instantaneous (justification) and continuous (sanctification) quality. we can look back on our past and find assurance there, but we can and should also find our assurance here and now! at present, do you now confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour? do you now find yourself with a repentant spirit with regards to sin? does the Holy Spirit now minister to your soul as one of God's children?

my point is this, too often Christians look only to their past to justify their salvation when God continues to work in the lives of His children to make them more like Christ now! so, the "doubting Christian" should ask these questions and examine their hearts in light of the Word of God.12/18/2006 07:47:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Scott Slayton|W|P|This is really simple, but I have found it to be helpful. I point people to faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross. Many doubting people are only looking at themselves and their experiences. You can never go wrong when you point them to the cross. They need something sure.12/18/2006 09:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Stephen Newell|W|P|I want to be careful what I say here; however, I do think that it is never a bad idea for someone to make a concrete profession of faith if there is doubt in their minds. That is to say, if there was no clear profession of faith at some prior time, "nailing it down," so to speak, shouldn't be discouraged.

Now, this is why I want to be careful: if there was a point in time when the doubter made a profession of faith, care must be taken to avoid stuff like this "saved twice" nonsense. Since the majority of those to whom I minister have this situation in their histories, when I get "doubters," these are the kinds of people I'm counseling.

If we're talking about someone who doesn't have a profession of faith (or someone who does, for that matter), I would think we'd want to be sure that the reason they think they are a Christian (with or without a profession) is because they understood and responded to the Gospel.

What I have tended to do is ask people what the Gospel is. If they don't understand that question, I get a little simpler and ask them what saves a person and how one can be saved. If they can answer this question accurately, I ask them if they have obeyed the Gospel command to trust in Christ. If the answer is in the affirmative, I ask them why there are doubts if they have trusted in Christ.

This, of course, leads to all sorts of answers, 9 times out of 10 having to do with questions of sanctification. The answers usually range from occasional sins (giving in to temptation from time to time), to specific thorns in the flesh, to attacks by non-Christian family and friends based on their past without Christ. And isn't that really what the whole "I'm not sure I'm saved" stuff is all about? Sanctification?

As a result, I have started to place a lot of emphasis on "working out your salvation." I have made the distinction between "felt" faith and "active" faith; that is, we cannot have a faith that is felt, but active, if we want to know if we are saved. I've asked my congregation (and the doubters) point blank if their faith in Christ was something that happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away or if it is something that is a daily act of obedience to Christ.

Are we getting up in the morning and thanking Christ for what He did for us, and resolving to trust Him by the power of the Holy Spirit that day? Are we doing that every day? If we are doing that, it can go a long way to answering our doubts. Like Scott Welch said, if we aren't really saved, we won't really care enough to do that.12/18/2006 09:18:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Stephen Newell|W|P|I forgot to add that I often wonder if the only reason we're even having to address these questions is because of our embracing of decisional regeneration.12/18/2006 10:25:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Scott Welch|W|P|Stephen said,

"I forgot to add that I often wonder if the only reason we're even having to address these questions is because of our embracing of decisional regeneration."

This may be the proverbial nail on the head. I can't tell you how many times I have seen and heard someone give someone assurance by asking a "have you made a decision?" type of question.

Scott S.-

Focusing on the finished work of Christ IS the solution to that dilemna. Thanks, guys, you have been very helpful for me!12/18/2006 11:07:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Good thoughts guys. One reason I asked this question is because it was asked to me in the form of a final in my evangelism class. I will post my answer later this week and ask for your critique. Until then, I would love to hear more feedback. For instance, how do we explain justification and assurance? Self-examination (2 Cor. 13:5) and a person's identity in Christ through the finished work of the cross as Scott mentioned? What about the alarming passages such as "many will say to me on that day, 'Lord Lord . . ." and Jesus responds, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, for I never knew you!" (Matt. 7:21)?

On the surface, the question is simple to answer, but if we look at some of the heroes of church history, we will find some of the most holy, most godly folks battled with doubt, and some never arrived at assurance of their salvation (many Puritans in particular). On the other hand, many gospel tracts and witnessing models will encourage the evangelist to tell the person right after they have prayed, "Welcome to the family of God!" and leaves it at that. I used to do that--that is, until I realized that I was offering a false sense of security.

So I would love to hear what you guys have to say about such matters aforementioned if you get a chance. In the meantime, I will load some Christmas boxes . . .12/19/2006 05:35:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Highland Host|W|P|First of all, I would need to know their church background. Some churches actually encourage doubt (the way others encourage easy-believism). Scott Welch is right, the very fact that they are doubting is a good sign. They're not an unbeliever, there is hope for them.
Then they do not need to be able to give a date on which they were converted. Do they love the Lord? Do they love the LOrd's people and His word? Those are vital questions.

The Puritans were better at this than we are. So I'm off to read a Puritan book.12/19/2006 11:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Scott Welch|W|P|Another thought I had to day is the entire message of 1 John. If you were to summarize this letter with one sentence it would be, "If you say you are saved, and are living like you are lost, then you are lost." To quote Sproul again, we are not saved by a profession of faith, but by the possession of faith. Another place you can go is James 2:19 where James talks about the faith of demons (the context is a profession of faith that is dead). The demons "believe" thef facts about Jesus and his work on the cross, but they HATE it. The one who is doubting, does he treasure Jesus and what He did on his behalf. Does he not just believe the truth about Jesus, but LOVE it?12/19/2006 10:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Two other additional thoughts I had which were congruent to what Daniel and Scott were mentioned is (1) a person's perspective of salvation (God-centered or man-centered) and (2) a person's understanding of sanctification.

If a person is God-centered in their understanding of salvation, they will hang their assurance on the character of God--his faithfulness, his promises, his perfections, etc. He will also rest in the finished and completed work of Jesus Christ who accomplished salvation on their behalf. God was pleased in His Son, in whom the fullness of the Godhead deity dwelt. God was pleased to bruise His Son, to bear the wrath and judgment for sinners. God was pleased in His Son's sacrifice to atone for the sins of His people, and there is nothing Jesus left undone, nothing unsaid, nothing, unfinished. Furthermore, God has not left us as orphans, but has come to us in the person of the Holy Spirit to dwell in us. This is what I mean by a God-centered perspective of assurance.

On a man-centered view of assurance, a person is holding on to some specific act in the past, albeit walking down an aisle, being baptized, praying a prayer, VBS, etc. Their assurance depends on whether they "have enough faith" at that given moment, whether they have loved God enough to be acceptable in God's sight.

The role of the conscience, affections, and the conviction of sin is a huge deal here, especially in sanctification. Like many of you said, if a person is not doubting, it is likely they are not believers, for either they do not have the Spirit dwelling in them, or they have a seared conscience through sinful rebellion, though professing to Christians (hence the term "paganized Christians").

Regarding sanctification, there are those in the Keswick camp who will tell you to "let go and let God" and find assurance through some mystical release and passive surrender to God whereby your spirit connects with God in union. Others in the Methodist and Finney camp will tell you that assurance and removal of doubt comes when you are entirely sanctified or reach sinless perfection. But the biblical case for sanctification is a life-long battle against sin and pursuit of holiness where a believer actively works out what God has worked in, all by grace.

I believe one of the greatest dangers in handling a doubting Christian is that we see the Christian life as somewhat performance-based, and therefore their assurance is grounded in the quality of it. Rather, just as we are saved by grace, and that not of ourselves, we are also to live by grace, being strengthened by dependence upon God, abiding in His Word, filled by His Spirit. If we can but begin to preach the gospel to ourselves on a daily basis, continually grow in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ, and walk in grace-based relationship (not performance-based) with Him, I think the doubt issue will be settled by the power of the gospel and indwelling testimony of the Spirit in the person's life.

Anyway, that's not the answer I gave. I will post that later.12/19/2006 10:06:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Let me ask this question.

Have any of you been in a worship service where a person who is doubting their salvation comes forward, and you are called upon to counsel with them?

I ask this because I have been in this situation many times (not recently), and as I began to understand how to better care for people's souls, my handling of the situation changed throughout the years. I would be interested to know (and hear) if any of you had similar situations.12/20/2006 05:47:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Stephen Newell|W|P|Yep. Early on I used to be in the camp of "let's get that taken care of right here;" however, as I matured and learned more Scripture and doctrine, I started to focus on the issues of sanctification, as I noted above.

Where before I would say, "If you're not sure, we can fix that problem today," I now find myself asking more details of their "sanctification problem." Is their problem something they are struggling to bring captive to Christ? Are they even bothering to do this?

If they are, I have tended to use the verse about God chastening those He loves. I think I once said, "If you're experiencing doubt as a result of your sin/temptation/etc., think of it as God's chastening influence in your life to draw you closer to Him and His word. He is using this to encourage you to place your trust in Him alone and not anything you could ever do. You are having a David moment right now; you are sorely missing the presence of God, and that is what caused David to ask God to create him in a clean heart, and not to remove the Holy Spirit from him. That's what succumbing to sin does, and your reaction is the right reaction of a person who belongs to God."

That was about 3 years ago. I'm not too sure how I'd answer now. Maybe I'd still give this answer.12/20/2006 12:42:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Gordan|W|P|My own experience here:

Sometimes doubt is simply caused by failing to focus on the promises of God as recorded in Scripture. If you believe that it is the faithfulness of God that makes you secure, then you ought to cling to the promises.

Also, many Protestant confessions contain the idea that Assurance may temporarily wain for more than one reason. God may use the "low time" to spur us on to seek Him with greater fervancy. Or, it may be that one has fallen to some severe temptation, which has wounded the conscience and grieved the Spirit of God.

In all of these, a penitent, humble trust in the Word of God is the real solution.12/20/2006 03:23:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Scott Slayton|W|P|Thanks to all of you for a helpful discussion. As I read your thoughts and think of a couple of people that I have been talking to recently, we will never know all of the harm that has been caused by the invitation system. I am not just talking about the effects of it on people's initial profession of faith, but also the idea that all of our sanctification takes place at the front of the church. I am blown away by the number of pastors that I hear talking about the importance of praying at the front of the church in people's spiritual lives.

Unfortunately, this has taken people's focus off of Christ and the change that faith produces in our lives. Instead, people are focusing on themselves and their experiences. This is why I believe that there is no such thing as talking about Christ too much. We must continually point people to the cross for assurance.

Now I recognize that if you look at 1 John, you see other elements of assurance. Particularly, we see that assurance comes from the fruits of faith and the witness of the Spirit. However, someone else made the good point that the fruits of faith and the witness of the Spirit are not always as steady. Therefore, we must point people to something that is always steady, the cross.12/20/2006 03:45:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Scott said,

Unfortunately, this has taken people's focus off of Christ and the change that faith produces in our lives. Instead, people are focusing on themselves and their experiences. This is why I believe that there is no such thing as talking about Christ too much. We must continually point people to the cross for assurance.

Amen brother. We can never talk about Christ too much! Implicit in that statement also is we cannot preach the gospel to one another enough! It saddens me to see the gospel relegated to those who are lost as if we graduate from the gospel and put it on the shelf after we become a Christian! It ought to be our prayer that "the sharing of your faith may become effective for the full knowledge of every good thing that is in us for the sake of Christ" (Philemon 6). Because God's divine power has "granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness through the knowledge of him who called us," (2 Pet. 1:3), we should therefore "be all the more diligent to make our calling and election sure" (2 Pet. 1:10). May God help us to turn our eyes off ourselves on and onto Christ.

My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus' blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus' name.

When darkness seems to hide His face,
I rest on His unchanging grace;
In every high and stormy gale,
My anchor holds within the veil.

His oath, His covenant, His blood
Support me in the whelming flood;
When all around my soul gives way,
He then is all my hope and stay.

When He shall come with trumpet sound,
Oh, may I then in Him be found;
Dressed in His righteousness alone,
Faultless to stand before the throne.

On Christ, the Solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.
12/20/2006 08:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Scott Welch|W|P|Timmy said, "Implicit in that statement also is we cannot preach the gospel to one another enough!"

Thanks for this! I know that I need to hear the gospel everyday. We get it into our heads that we are saved by grace and that somehow grace metamorphs when we come to sanctification. Galatians 3:3 "Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?" The same gospel that saves us, empowers us to persevere and remain in the Father's hand.1/26/2007 10:41:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Jon|W|P|I read your article and am wondering about some issues. I have gone through a terrible trial in my life for the last sixteen months.
This has caused me to doubt my salvation. At first it seemed that I had no protection to my mind. This has slowly improved. However, it feels as if my will is incapacitated. I have cried and cried to the Lord for deliverance but its as if I'm in a fog and feel as lifeless, cold and struggling in my faith. I have read a lot of books from the past of people going through dark seasons.
Today, that is unheard of. Anyway, I was blessed by this blog as I agree with the getting saved over and over again. Any help or if anyone has experienced this, perhaps you can elaborate.1/27/2007 05:49:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Jon,

Thanks for commenting and sharing yor experiences.

I thought I would inform you that I have recently moved over to WordPress, and the new URL is timmybrister.com.

I feel that there may be others with similar experiences who could share their thoughts and encouragement with you but will not find your comment because it is on the old blog.

I am glad that you found the comments helpful. I pray that the Lord will make the light of His countenance to shine upon you, to bring you peace and cause you to praise Him for His faithfulness. He is ever near, though we may feel that He is not there. The promises of His Word are "yes" and "amen" in Christ Jesus, and the assurance we have in Him is that if we draw near to Him, He will draw near to us (James 4:7-10). The promises of God in His Word are anchors in the tumultuous seas of experiences, various feelings, and unstable circumstances. Christ is your solid rock, and I pray that He will keep your feet from slipping and put a new song in your heart (Psalm 40:1-5). God bless you, Jon, and I hope to see you around again.4/28/2010 09:54:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Robert|W|P|Hi,

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www.christian.com12/17/2006 03:36:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|When I was in college, we had interviews with the Alabama Baptist State Board of Missions for what they called the "board of aid" scholarship. In these interviews, they would often ask about what we were called to do in ministry. I often struggled with this question because I felt that I would be responding presumptuously, assuming that I had a fixed agenda on God's purpose for my life. However, feeling that I needed to provide a response, I decided to answer by telling them that I believe God is leading me to be a scholar missionary. "What is a scholar missionary?" you might ask. Well, I really don't know exactly what one is, but I can point you to one that does a good job of resembling the heart of what I believe a scholar missionary looks like. Dr. David Sills, asscoiate professor of Christian Missions and Cultural Anthropology here at Southern, is a man whom I have had the privilege of knowing and learning both from academic and personal levels. In a recent blogpost, Dr. Sills shares something that I often feel in my own heart. Here's an except:
Back in the USA, I teach in one of the best theological seminaries in the world. I rub shoulders on a daily basis with some of the most brilliant evangelical scholars in the world—both professors and students alike. I can walk from my office and in two minutes be in one of the best theological libraries in the world. Spending my days in this environment makes it so easy for me to slip into a mode that assumes far too much. How it grieves my heart when I find humble believers and Christian workers like this precious sister who struggle on with no books, no formal training, and the constant attack of false teaching. When I walk through the door in my stateside classroom or in my church, people often greet me with smiles, pats on the back, compliments, and requests for my time or opinion. It feeds the flesh and makes me feel useful. When I have the opportunity to meet with these humble, Bible-hungry believers, I find it hard to leave. And, when I do leave and return to my highly academic comfort zone, it seems a little like taking a seat on a lifeboat and deserting those going down on the Titanic. I sometimes wonder about the greeting I will get when I walk through the door to heaven. I know I will see the Fortunatas, and that they will forgive me, but I wonder about those who never heard at all.
I wonder too, Dr. Sills. On an academic side, there is a great need of biblically conservative missiologists and first-rate scholarship for the defense and propagation of the gospel of Jesus Christ; but on the other side, there is a tantamount need for teaching, training, and working among the unreached peoples of the world. The answer as I see it is not either/or but both/and. In this upcoming generation of Christians, we need a great move of God for the purpose of reaching the peoples with the unchanging gospel of Jesus Christ, but we also need astute, uncompromising, and humble scholarship which contends for the gospel against pluralism, syncretism, ecumenism, liberalism, and all those other -isms' that seek to neuter, alter, or destroy the heart of the gospel of Jesus Christ. And this is why I believe we need more scholar missionaries who will communicate the heart of God to the hearts of those who have never heard. May God bring an outpouring of His Spirit to bring fame to His name with an unfliching passion for the truth, for the gospel, and for the Church which he has redeemed with His precious blood. |W|P|116638893825297101|W|P|The Heart of a Scholar Missionary|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/18/2006 12:19:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Scott Slayton|W|P|Board of aid interviews. What great memories.12/18/2006 12:45:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|You too huh? After interviewing a bunch of us from back in the day, I wonder if they thought there was any hope for the future of the SBC.

My feel good moment soon came afterwards with a gleeful trip to Mt. Zion to load up on Puritan paperbacks.

Good to hear from Scott!12/18/2006 04:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Brad Hughes|W|P|when in the world did you write this?12/18/2006 11:09:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|My friend Brad,

I wrote this in your living room, on your computer, while you were sleeping on the couch snoring (edit, okay you weren't snoring). So have you edited this blogpost? I am paying you big bucks buddy . . .6/15/2007 08:23:00 AM|W|P|Blogger dhp333|W|P|Hey Tim, John let me know about your blog and told me that I should check it out. I have been in China for three years now so I am a little slow in catching on to the whole blog idea, but yours has been very encouraging. I totally agree with your article about scholarly missionaries. It seems that our company is lowering the educational requirements every year and with that I am seeing many people who don't know how to think rightly in many of the questionable circumstances that we get ourselves into. I'd love to talk with you about this more at length sometime.
Thanks man and keep writing!12/16/2006 10:11:00 AM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Brothers, We Are Not Propagandists What do you think about this???|W|P|116628188992279883|W|P|Would Jesus Shop at Wal-Mart?|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/16/2006 11:24:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Brad Hughes|W|P|"Jesus did not come to this earth just to save some platonic soul..." Now that is the quote of the day. Why exactly did he come again???12/16/2006 11:37:00 AM|W|P|Blogger William E. Turner Jr.|W|P|Embarrassing. I honestly cannot stand this Christian ghetto mentality. Where does Phelps shop then? Certainly not Target since they are worse than Walmart in countless ways.

It saddens me to think about what Christians will be remembered for...12/16/2006 02:12:00 PM|W|P|Blogger joethorn.net|W|P|The problem is that Neil and Joe are trying to guess at what Jesus would do. I don't care if Jesus would shop at Wal*Mart. I think it's a stupid question that can only get an answer founded on conjecture and everyone's opinion is legit.

What I do care about is what the Bible says about righteousness, justice and the poor. What the Bible actually says about such things is relevant to the Walmart issue.

I think the idea of not shopping at a store because they aren't Christian friendly is ridiculous. But I think staying away from a company that exploits the poor, destroys community, and puts mom and pop businesses out of operation is a good idea.

Walmart is a complicated issue. Paying well locally is a good thing, but what they have done in other countries is another relevant issue to consider. Employing many is a good thing, but running locally established businesses out of operation is another relevant factor to consider. The impact on the "big box" stores on community are worth discussing.

I am not a Walmart boycott guy, but the discussion has to be had on the merits of what is true, not what we think Jesus would do if he were a postmodern thirtysomething living in an American suburbia. The whole discussion should be based on what is happening via Walmart, and what the Bible actually says about the church, the world, and the reign of God.12/16/2006 11:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger pregador27|W|P|Sorry, I must've been shopping at WalMart when this aired.

This Pastor was pretty much using just one verse, "do unto others..." He did throw another verse reference, but not very Bible minded in my opinion.

Also, was he referring to Jesus or Robin Hood? He said something about Jesus knocking the rich guy and helping the poor. Didn't Jesus also say that we would always have the poor with us, but only have Him for a short time? That wouldn't fly with Phelps.

PS- What is it with Phelps? This gentleman's theology is very soft from what evidence comes in this video (Hopefully he was just having "an off night" like Joel Osteen's apologists said about his denial of the Gospel). And then you have old godhatesf*gs Freddy Phelps. Hmmm.12/17/2006 08:11:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Renee|W|P|Let's boycott all things that don't act like Jesus. Oh wait then I'd have to sit in my house and never go to another store or movie or anything. I'd have to grow my own food and make my own clothes. Oh no I'd need to move out of my house and build my own, but I couldn't buy my lumber from lowe's I'd have to cut down my own trees. What would I use that chainsaw may have been made in china by a child in a sweat shop. I guess I need to live in a tent made of wool that I sheered off my own sheep and eat the food that I grew. I certainly can't use electricity. The company probably does some bad things. I just hope I can find some land that was owned by a christian to buy. That is how ridiculous I think this entire conversation on the video is about Walmart. I couldn't even finish watching it as they yelled about Jesus liking Walmart or not. Everybody is focused on the wrong thig. You can't expect the unsaved to act saved. Go to walmart and share the gospel or something. Don't tell nonchristians that they aren't acting like Jesus and call them to. That's pointless.12/17/2006 08:32:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Paul Schafer|W|P|Would Jesus Shop at Wal-Mart?

Before His three-year ministry started, the local Nazareth Wal-mart offered goods Jesus could use in his father's carpenter shop, such as nails, saws, wood and hammers. He probably stocked up on those things.

After His three-year ministry started, Jesus was released to show His divinity and did miracles so He providied for himself and others and had no need for his local Wal-mart.

It's sad to see and hear a Fox Reporter rebuking Pastor Phelp's for his poor arguments and not even addressing the issues at hand. Then the reporter uses his Jesus speech against Phelps arguments. Does Phelps have elders in his church to make sure his arguments are sound and not sound stupid, to make sure his arguments have any merit? It's sad to hear the reporter called Phelps and his argument a phony! What a bad testimony!12/17/2006 03:02:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Joe said, The problem is that Neil and Joe are trying to guess at what Jesus would do. I don't care if Jesus would shop at Wal*Mart. I think it's a stupid question that can only get an answer founded on conjecture and everyone's opinion is legit.

I think this is important to mention. We are led to believe that our culture cares about whether Jesus would shop at Wal-Mart. Everyone wants to play the "Jesus card." PETA would have us believe that Jesus was a vegatarian. MoveOn.org would have us believe that Jesus was not a republican. Further still, our culture would have us believe that Jesus was a middle-class white American.

The point I am trying to make is that everyone wants to use such conjecture to legitimize their opinion with the Jesus stamp.

We do need to look beyond that as Joe has mentioned and consider what the Bible says about caring for the poor and consider what it means to be good stewards and citizens of both worlds (kingdom of God and citizen of United States). I also think Renee raised a legitimate point. How do we be "in the world" without be "of the world" regarding the purchasing (and implicit support) of goods and services which are radically contrary to the principles and values of God's Word?

Finally, if I am not mistaken, Phelps was hired by a union for this commercial, hence the title above the video. As a minister and servant of Jesus Christ, should Phelps be politicizing Jesus this way? Is this appropriate behavior for a minister, or does this bring him (and the name of Jesus) in reproach?12/17/2006 08:20:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Troy|W|P|First of all, I totally don't think Jesus concerned himself with these sorts of things...I don't find much direction in scripture to answer such questions. These typses of decisions always get confused when we don't have clear biblical direction.

I would admit, if the connection were more clear and direct like...

"Would Jesus buy diamonds from corrupt diamond mines?

or what about..."Would Jesus purchase a BMW?"

Sometimes there are specific texts we can bring to bear. We know that Jesus does not support lying, or taking advantage of others...He is concerned about the orphan and the oppressed.

I hate the add, but actually I think considering these sorts of questions is very good for the average American believer -- we are way too focused on ourselves.12/19/2006 12:40:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Jimmy|W|P|This is an important question for Christians to ask themselves, for one reason: human rights.

You believe human souls are crafted in the image of God. You believe everyone deserves to be treated with equity--if you don't, check the Bible for references to the poor, the needy and oppressed. You believe that workers deserve their fair wages.

Cavuto's only points were that Wal-Mart saves American consumers money and provides many jobs. Fine.

Fact: Wal-Mart has put American manufacturers out of business and destroyed countless local economies, putting millions out of work they already had to bring them something they didn't need nor want. There is usually no net gain for the local economy. We support corporate greed at the expense of quality of life for individuals?

Fact: The company is wasteful with land and facility resources. We support harming the creation, creating massive unrecyclable waste, and poor use of resources?

Fact: Wal-Mart mistreats its labor force. Most employees (not those in upper management) live below the poverty line. This is true. Wal-Mart's health care plan, only available to full-time workers, is one of the most expensive in the industry, making it a non-option for many. In other words, Wal-Mart is willfully forcing all those people into the category of poor, needy, and oppressed, and keeping them there. We support this?

Fact: Wal-Mart explicitly supports human slave trade, which is very real and active globally, by employing children and adults in inhumane conditions for mere pennies or no pay. This is so the American shopper can save $2 on a t-shirt. We support enslaving human beings for our own benefit?

Fact: Wal-Mart gives next to nothing to charity, neither at the national nor local levels. To whom much is given...?

(Just Google "wal mart business practices" for some of the facts above.)

So you say, so what? We have bigger things to worry about. Glorifying God, spreading the Gospel, reaping the harvest, reforming our wayward churches, fighting the enemy to stay focused on holiness in our rapdily declining culture.

Certainly so. I wholeheartedly affirm these things.

However, I don't think the question at hand is unrelated nor is it useless. The way that we live, dawn to dusk, 365, is what we believe. Regardless of what we talk about in theological debates. So we wish to test all things and hold the good, yes? So we must look at the fact sheet on Wal-Mart, and ask ourselves if, as followers of Christ, can we support greed, deception, waste, oppression, and slavery?

...

Now, I do shop at Wal-Mart. Begrudgingly. And this is the first I've serously researched their business practices. I wish I could say I'll never shop there again, though I do have some options here in town.

I don't see this as Christians being petty or creating faith ghettos. In the culture in which we have been sovereignly placed, it would be impossible, as well as ridiculously unwise, to withdraw support from all secular systems (i.e., retail, grocery, housing, etc). But I think we are called to be wise, and use our money, time, and our VOICES in a way which redeems the time. Maybe, at the VERY LEAST, examining those companies we support and making informed decisions would not be a total waste of time. Maybe purchasing what we need somewhere rather than Wal-Mart is an option most have not even considered. Or maybe Wal-Mart is the wise thing for you to do.

What do you think?12/19/2006 08:22:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Does anyone know of organizations or researchers who evaluate companies ethical practices? It would be worthwhile to avail the Christian community to any egregious actions such as child slavery and/or exploitation of the poor.

If Wal-Mart is culpable of such vices, then it should be brought to the light. However, we cannot single out Wal-Mart alone. For instance, I have heard some horrid practices by Starbucks coffee development in third world countries. If documentation can be shown that they are indeed practicing such things as aforementioned, do you think the dedicated Starbucks coffee drinkers would give it up entirely?

Finally, taking it to reduction of absurdity, were the unethical practices of many companies which supply the necessary goods and services for everyday living, how do you think we as Christians could operate? The idea of utopia or amish-like lifestyle won't fly for most Christians, you think?12/19/2006 10:01:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Nathan White|W|P|Hmmm, are you sure that Joe Phelps isn't related to Fred Phelps??

Yeah, that Fred Phelps.

Just kidding. Don't shoot me :)

Seriously, though, somebody help this Phelps guy (both of them).12/19/2006 11:35:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Jimmy|W|P|"Does anyone know of organizations or researchers who evaluate companies ethical practices?"

Only similar thing that comes to mind right off is Make Trade Fair. A little searching, I also found CorpWatch.

I'm sure there are more.

Of course you're absolutely correct in that this is not solely a Wal-Mart issue. While Wal-Mart is important, simply because they are the biggest corporation on the planet, and their slightest moves are copied by most other chains, it would be hypocritical to judge only them. I researched Target the other night as I researched Wal-Mart... the only complaints I could find were that their wages are similarly low. So yes, I think we need to keep an eye on ethics of those companies that we support--at least, those that we frequent. Of course, they'll never be truly Christian ways... these guys are out to make a buck, after all, so greed will always be involved. But gross injustice should not be rewarded.12/15/2006 06:47:00 AM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|
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This photo was taken at one of the first weddings I had ever taken. Most of my favorite shots come from totally random moments (the benefits of photojournalistic style). I am not a very good, "Okay, let's get everyone together for some formals" kind of photographer. Speaking of wedding photography, I thought I share with you where I get a lot of my inspiration. Below is my top 10 favorite wedding photographers. If you are interested in photography, you ought to check out their portfolios as they are not just good wedding photographers, but in my opinion produce some of the best work around. They are all members of the Digital Wedding Forum--the "everything you ever want to know about photography" place I have been privileged to be a member of. So here is my top ten (though there are many more): 1. David Beckstead 2. The Becker 3. Yervant 4. Todd Pellowe 5. Todd Johnson 6. Huy Nguyen 7. Jeff Ascough 8. Gordon McGowan 9. Ventana Weddings 10. JVS Weddings My Flickr Page :: Flickr Friday Photo Group|W|P|116618694147964050|W|P|POTW :: 12.15.06 :: heldinsuspense|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/14/2006 05:25:00 AM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|One of the programming changes at P&P is to mention some new book releases that I think are important reads. Unfortunately, many bookstores don’t agree with me, and more than likely you will not find these on the front shelves either. Therefore, I want to put them on the front shelf of my blog so to speak and encourage you to consider them as future reads. Title: Only One Way?: Reaffirming the Exclusive Truth Claims of Christianity Editor: Richard D. Phillips Contributing Authors: David F. Wells, D. A. Carson, Peter Jones, Philip Graham Ryken, J. Ligon Duncan Publisher: Crossway Publishing Date: February 12, 2007 Pages: 144 Format: Trade Paperback ISBN: 1-58134-8010 Retail Price: $12.99 From Crossway:
Centuries ago Christ made a claim that disconcerts as many today as it did then—he is the way of salvation. Ironically, he spoke these words to comfort his disciples on the night of his arrest. Richard Phillips is just one of six highly respected authors seeking to reaffirm these comforting words and other exclusive claims of Christianity for today’s reader.

Each chapter proclaims, defends, and explains the Christian truths that are most directly challenged by postmodern relativism. Our God is the God; Jesus is not merely a savior, but the only Savior; and the truth revealed in the Bible is divine truth. As readers grasp these essential ideas and their implications they will be able to witness powerfully by articulating these claims with clarity, conviction, and love.

This is but one of two really anticipated books coming out in 2007 dealing with religious pluralism (the other by InterVarsity). Crossway has assembled some top-notch evangelical scholars, and I look forward to reading and reviewing this book upon release. Excerpts and front matter should be available by Crossway in PDF sometime in the future. I have read from Carson (here), Wells (here), and Ryken (here) on the subject matter and look forward to this offering. This is yet one more reason why I believe Crossway is one of the best publishing houses around.

To purchase @ Crossway, go here. To purchase @ Amazon, go here.

|W|P|116609336958493363|W|P|Book Alert: Only One Way?|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/13/2006 05:17:00 AM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Side Note 1: As you already know, Christmas shopping is full force, which means Christmas shipping is also kicking in stride. Working at the UPS hub, therefore, means double shifting (10 hours a day) every day this week and very little down time. That said, I am not sure how regular my posting will be. Side Note 2: As you can see, the theme for P&P lately has been inclusivism, given that I have spent considerable time thinking through and responding to these issues. In this video clip, you hear a classic response from a Roman Catholic theologian (Father Michael Manning) on Larry King. This is typical Vatican II doctrine regarding Christ and other religions. Many theologians consider Vatican II to be a "watershed moment" regarding Christianity and other religions, and Clark Pinnock as well as other evangelical inclusivists look admirably to Vatican II as a forerunner or precursor to what they are hoping to accomplish in evangelical circles. What Father Manning is saying is not far off from from some evangelicals today (however, I would argue that the title "evangelical inclusivists" is highly suspect and somewhat contradictory). Side Note 3: My next post will deal with a sermon Nelson Price preached at FBC Woodstock a couple of weeks ago dealing with the fate of the unevangelized. He comes up with the concept of "god-consciousness" which I would like to discuss. So if you are interested in listening to it ahead of time, go here and view/listen for yourself. I would be interested in your thoughts on his presentation. |W|P|116600502848199173|W|P|Roman Catholic Inclusivism Presented by Father Michael Manning|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/13/2006 09:31:00 AM|W|P|Blogger terri|W|P|There you go pickin' on my pastor again, Timmy. I'm sad I'm going to miss out on seeing you when I'm there next week! But, I'm glad I'll get to hog your wife for an evening:) I'm praying for you and Dusti as you have long work hours during this season. Hope to talk to you soon! Sorry, I think it probably wouldn't be a good idea to listen to a sermon while I'm here at work...but I really want to hear Price. I will comment in a more substantial way if and when I get to listen to it.

BTW, you would LOVE Wednesday nights at Cap Bap (that's what we affectionately call it here); there is inductive Bible Study (exegetical) for everyone there and we all have open discussion with Mark or whoever teaches. It's great!12/13/2006 10:57:00 AM|W|P|Blogger george|W|P|I am looking forward to this discussion. My main contention as a former Catholic myself (with a dad who was actually in the seminary to become a priest for a while), is how Catholics can reconcile the Council of Trent with Vatican II. Trent excludes me from salvation while Vatican II seemingly lets me back in.12/15/2006 07:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ajlin|W|P|re: Manning quotes

“What about a rabbi who really follows the Lord as best he can? As a Catholic, I’m very comfortable that he attains salvation by doing best.”
I remember hearing a quote from R.C Sproul in which he said he had once told his teacher, John Gerstner, that he had done his best on a particular assignment and Gerstner responded, 'Young man, you have never done your best.' The point being that through selfish laziness or lust, or even circumstantial distractions, we are always prevented from doing our absolute best at any activity we attempt in this fallen world.
-"For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" (Rm.3:23)-
-"The soul who sins shall die." (Ez.18)-

“I’m very touched by five-times-a-day praying. I’m very touched by the Ramadan, by the fasting …”
I wonder how touched he is by jihad and the slaughter of the infidels that can be demonstrated to have occurred from the outset of Islamic history?12/12/2006 04:53:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|On August 18, 2006, Desiring God Radio and John Piper addressed the topic, "What Happens to Those Who Have Never Heard the Gospel?" As the website states,
The issue of what happens to those who have never heard about Jesus Christ is a question many people ask. As R.C. Sproul has noted, sometimes the question is phrased this way: "What happens to the innocent person in the middle of Africa who has never heard about Jesus Christ?" Fortunately, as Sproul points out, the innocent person has nothing to fear. The problem is that there are no innocent people--anywhere.
To listen to the short audio commentary of Dr. Piper, click here. Note: Though many if not most all of you agree with Dr. Piper, there are those in the "wider hope" camp who argue for post-mortem encounter, eschatological evangelization, anonymous Christians, pre-messianic believers, and holy pagans--all "saved" outside of the knowledge of Christ, outside the Church, and apart from gospel mission. Therefore, it is incredibly important to have the biblical account presented as Dr. Piper has. Let us, as he concluded, labor to take the gospel of Jesus Christ to every tongue, every tribe, and every people, for His fame and the glory of His name!|W|P|116596138558964686|W|P|Piper on "What Happens to Those Who Have Never Heard the Gospel?"|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/15/2006 07:11:00 AM|W|P|Blogger ajlin|W|P|OK, so Piper's statements about 'suppressing the truth' and 'how can they believe what they haven't heard' sound biblical and all, but what about the God-consciousness? What about the positive signals?!
Man, this guy really should have listened to Dr. Price's sermon.12/11/2006 01:21:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Here is inclusivism in living color. And this is also why I attend Southern Seminary. Thank God for men like Dr. Mohler and the faithful, clear, and unapologetic presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ. |W|P|116586130543563319|W|P|Being Saved: Dr. Mohler vs. Rabbi Kushner and Father Byron|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/11/2006 01:57:00 PM|W|P|Blogger mrclm|W|P|Brother Timmy,
Your blog rocks! Beyond that your photos on Flickr are spectacular! I've added you to my contacts on Flickr so I can keep returning to your photos. I've also added you to my blog roll. I'm linking to one of your pictures of Mark Driscoll on my blog (a smaller version from your Flickr photos from the Desiring God Conference)

Big Chris
Because I said so blog12/11/2006 10:29:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Nice to meet you Chris! Thanks for the kind comments. I hope you find the photos useful for your blog. I look forward to reading your blog in the future.12/10/2006 06:21:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Nathan Finn, adjunct instructor at Southeastern College, has written an excellent series called "Some Possible Solutions for What Ails the SBC." Below are the links to all 16 posts in this series. Finn explains that the series began when he first wrote a post called, "Why I Don't Want to be a Southern Baptist Sometimes" and Wayne Hatcher commented with a word of exhortation:
Beautiful post. Perfect biting wit. All sad, but true, with hope and promise at the end. Now, follow up with a post listing what you intend to do to correct the problems; not a convention-wide approach, but what you (and we) can do, in one Sunday-school class, one church, one community, one life.
So for the last two months, Finn has been giving his exposition of the points laid out in his initial post, and I must say that it is rare to find such clear, critical thinking in the SBC. There are many SBC bloggers out and about these days--some who are involved politically in the power-grab of the Convention, others delving into theological issues, and yet more who simply write about what is going on in their church or sharing their sermon manuscripts. I suppose that all these have their rightful place, but Finn has done an exceptional thing by transcending the trench-type blogging and given us a big-picture layout of the landscape of the SBC, where the battlelines are being drawn, where the booby traps are being placed, and where we as a Convention can keep ourselves from getting stuck in our own civil war. If we as a Convention are going to experience success on the ground, we must get on the frontlines and not get distracted with silly issues which are not the problem (e.g. alcohol, Calvinism, etc.). From some in our elder generation who have fought for the Conservative Resurgence, we have much to be thankful. However, it is some of these same fighters who are looking for new theological or ecclesiological hills to die on. The future of the Convention will depend upon the wisdom and discernment to know what the real issues are, contrary to how some want us to think. As this younger generation of Southern Baptists is being marshalled onto the current battleground of the SBC, there will be some familiar trenches we will need to dig in and fight for (inerrancy, exclusivity of Christ, etc.). There will also be posts that we need to abandon, however (I will let you figure out what some of those are). In any case, Finn has done us all a service by giving us some good material to think about and discuss in the days ahead. Here are his posts in the order he wrote them: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13.1 13.2 14.1 14.2 So what was Finn's conclusion to the greatest problem in the SBC? Here's his answer:
"The biggest problem in the SBC is our loss of the gospel. It is pervasive. It is often subtle. It is likely accidental, or at least it has not been deliberate. And it is a tragedy. . . . In many corners of the SBC, the gospel has either been redefined, dumbed-down, confused, prostituted, or downplayed. Again, I think almost none of this is deliberate. But it has happened."
So where do we begin? We begin with the gospel. I suspect the future of our Convention lies not in the political prowess of the SBC elite or the erudite academia of our well-esteemed seminaries or even whether we blow the shofar in our next annual meeting. Rather it lies in every local church committing themselves to the gospel of Jesus Christ. Believing it. Teaching it. Living it. And glorying in it. Let us labor to that end. Selah|W|P|116579389100867704|W|P|Nathan Finn on What Ails the SBC|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/09/2006 02:08:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|I am always interested in what people are reading at any given point in time. Since many of you are students like me, I was wondering what you are reading over the Christmas break. If you are not a student, of course I would love to know what you are currently reading as well. During the break, I will be working through a series of books that target sin in my life. Devotionally, I slowly reading through Overcoming Sin & Temptation edited by Kelly Kapic and Justin Taylor. I have read On Mortification but not Of Temptation or Indwelling Sin. I am encouraged and hopeful that God will do great things in my heart and life through this book. Three other books I have planned on reading are (in order): A Fight to the Death: Taking Aim at Sin Within by Wayne A. Mack with Joshua Mack, Precious Remedies Against Satan's Devices by Thomas Brooks, and Holiness by J.C. Ryle. One other secondary reading goal I have is to finish reading journal articles regarding inclusivism as well as peruse some material that deals with Christian's attitudes toward other religions, tolerance, and truth. On the docket I have in mind such authors as Hendrik Kraemer, Ajith Fernando, Winfried Corduan, Stephen Neill, and Howard Netland. So now it's your turn. What are you reading over the holidays? Any recently read books that you would recommend?|W|P|116569314637080014|W|P|What Are You Reading Over the Holidays?|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/09/2006 04:42:00 PM|W|P|Blogger John Hollandsworth|W|P|OK, Timmy, I'll jump in!
I'm close to finishing the Overcoming Sin and Temptation anthology(whew!), and also about half way through Owen's Communion with God(excellent). Next on the list is Jason Janz's new book which I'm expecting to "sharpen me like iron"!

John






p.s. do all aspiring dentists have confused theology?12/09/2006 05:53:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|LOL. I can't take credit. It's the work of the sacred sandwich.

BTW, what's the name of Janz's book?12/09/2006 05:54:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Paul|W|P|What Jesus Demands from the World: John Piper.

Greek Primer: by Croy

Photography for Dummies

...and hopefully anything else involving Dr. Wellham's systematic theology class12/09/2006 07:58:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Thanks for sharing Paul. So are you a photographer? If so, what do you shoot with?12/09/2006 09:06:00 PM|W|P|Blogger John Hollandsworth|W|P|Timmy,

Jason's book is called Alone with God: A Practical Plan for Dynamic
Devotions

If any fundamentalist can figure out how to plan dynamic devotions, I figure he can. I hope to have it read and a review up on my site within a month.12/09/2006 09:36:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|That's cool. I only know Janz from his handling of The End of the Spear controversy. I spoke out about it and found Janz's responses to be measured, accurate, and humble. I look forward to reading your review of his book.12/10/2006 12:24:00 PM|W|P|Blogger justin|W|P|I am taking senior seminar in history next semestre(kind of like a "here is how to do historical analysis and writing) and the topic is historical Jesus.
So my reading over Christmas is going to be Gospel commentaries and Third Quester historians. And probably some gnostic texts.

I am starting out with Jesus and the Logic of History by Paul Barnett. I highly recommend it.12/10/2006 01:35:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Daniel|W|P|The Purpose-Driven Life. Just kidding, that elf must have stolen my copy.

Actually, I'm reading Tom Wright's The Last Word. I just finished his The Challenge of Jesus.

I'm also studying James for our high school group so Doug Moo's commentary has been helpful.12/10/2006 05:09:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Paul Schafer|W|P|Timmy,

I will be reading my bible.
At work, I am finishing up a book on the Texas Rangers. At home, I usually read Christian blogs and if I have time, I am finishing up a John Piper book or one of the books I purchased at the DG conference in October.12/10/2006 06:53:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Justin,

So is your study of the historical Jesus stuff analogous to The Jesus Seminar? Are these people making a distinction between the "Christ of faith" and the "Jesus of history?"12/10/2006 06:55:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Daniel,

Since you have been reading Wright, do you espouse his view of justification? Would you align yourself with the NPP movement? Just curious. :)12/10/2006 07:01:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Dan Warne|W|P|Hey timmy. I just came across your blog by way of Challies.com Looking forward to following it in the future. I am a biblical counseling student at The Masters College. Over break I'll be reading:

The Quest for Character
by Johnny Mac (probably for devotions)

finishing How People Change
by Paul Tripp and Timothy Lane

re-reading Humility
by CJ Mahaney

and doing a big map-marking project for my upcoming semester at our Israel Bible Extension.

God bless!
Dan Warne12/10/2006 07:25:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Dan,

Wow. Was I on Challies? Oh wait, I checked. Nope.

Anyway. It's great to meet you man. I don't know if you know Dr. Stuart Scott, but he is a member of my church, and I also had him this past semester for a biblical counseling class.

Having coming from a Christian college which taught counseling with secular and atheistic worldviews which seriously turned me off the idea of any counseling whatsoever. This past four months has been very encouraging to learn and see how the nouthetic counseling is gaining influence and being taught in more and more places. I had never heard of it until last year.

Over the course of this past semester, we read Seeing with New Eyes by David Powlison, How to Change Biblically by John MacArthur and Wayne Mack, How Can I Change by C.J. Mahaney, Theology of Christian Counseling, and Instruments in the Redeemer's Hands by Paul David Tripp.

I thoroughly enjoyed all of them and would recommend them without reservation. What I came to learn was that biblical counseling is simply practical theology, being doers of the word, and being a people who focus on our sanctification as well as others. It is essentially discipleship as a way of life.

Anyway. Thanks for sharing, and I hope to see you around sometime in the future.12/11/2006 12:51:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Stephen Newell|W|P|Still reading Given For You by Keith Mathison, Thomas Brooks' The Secret Key to Heaven, and just started Dagg's Manual of Theology as a breaktime reader at work.

In my entertainment reading, I'm reading Eldest by Christopher Paolini and The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas.

I also just completed a 24 Season 1 marathon and am looking forward to getting Season 2 for Christmas. *cackles maniacally*

This is, of course, all sandwiched around doing my sermon prep for Romans.

I give up. I've got reading ADD now that I don't have to read for class anymore.12/11/2006 01:30:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Dan Warne|W|P|Hey man. Just to clarify - your link isn't on Challies. He referenced you in his liveblogthingy of the T4G conference, when he talked about something called the Band of Bloggers Fellowship.

"Timmy Brister, he of Provocations and Pantings fame, has been hard at work putting together a time of fellowship for bloggers who will be attending the upcoming Together For The Gospel Conference."

Anyway, just for the record.

I've never met Dr. Scott personally, but the Marriage & Family class here at school still uses his notepacket. My friends that got to meet him while he was here think he was a pretty cool guy.

Of the books you mentioned, I've only read Instruments in the Reedemer's Hands by Tripp. Definitely one of the best books I've read.

And a big trudat on Biblical counseling being practical theology. I think that if more people understood that essentially that is what it is, they would be less skeptical towards it.

-- Dan12/11/2006 03:47:00 AM|W|P|Blogger Highland Host|W|P|Hopefully Patrick Walker's 'Six Saints of the Covenant' and maybe Gill's 'Cause of God and Truth'.12/11/2006 04:13:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Highland Host,

Could you give a brief description of Patrick Walker's Six Saints of the Covenant? I have not heard of that book before, and I tried looking it up on Amazon and couldn't really get much info on it.

Is it a book on new covenant theology?12/12/2006 02:46:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Mathew Sims|W|P|Timmy,
I'm reading Roger Olson's Arminian Theology. I'll also Lord willing finish Piper's What Jesus Demands of the World, my seminary president's (Michael Barrett) new book, Biblical Worship, the last two book sections in Overcoming Sin and Temptation, Vern Poythresess, Redeeming Science, and Carl F Henry's Revelation and the Bible.

That should occupy my month break.

MBS
Soli Deo Gloria12/13/2006 04:41:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Daniel|W|P|I think that Wright makes some good points on justification. His view is pretty complicated (involving eschatological tension and both forensic and covenantal aspects).

The Reformation treated justification in a highly individualistic manner (me getting right with God) instead a corporate one (different people groups getting right with God).

My frustration with Wright comes when he starts to talk about the atonement. He says that he holds to penal substitution, but when the topic of the atonement comes up, he doesn't talk about it that much.

He views Christ's death as primarily defeating evil. This is the central aspect of his atonement theology.12/13/2006 04:44:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Daniel|W|P|Oh, "new perspective" is kind of a misnomer. It should be called "new perspectives" because the leading voices in this movement don't agree on everything (Wright, Dunn, Sanders, Hays).

Even Moo, Carson, and folks have been forced to adapted their view of Judaism based on Sanders.12/13/2006 07:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Paul|W|P|Timmy,

I'm not a photographer, though the idea interests me, and since I work at Barnes and Noble and get huge discounts, I picked up the photography for dummies at a nice price.12/13/2006 10:45:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|Thanks for clarifying, Paul. Yeah, if you are looking for a creative outlet or just a worthwhile hobby, photography is a great way to go. I found it ironic that, over the past couple of years when I was getting acquaintanced with photography, there were several other ministers and bloggers doing the same. That's kind of how the Friday photo group got started. Anyway, let me know if you decide to for it.12/08/2006 03:07:00 PM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|Catching the news this afternoon, I came across a story that was quite disturbing to me. Spencer Gifts, the store in the mall which caters to the depravity of man, is selling what they call “pornaments.” They are offering 18 different kinds of sexually explicit (X-rated) ornaments depicting reindeer, candy man, snow men, and Mr. and Mrs. North Pole. On the candy man and woman, a caption states,
“His and hers cookie people! What else will they think of next? If you thought ginger was the spiciest thing on the menu this holiday, guess again. These little sexy peeps will raise the cheer of any grumpy queer!”
Some of the stores are showcasing these ornaments on their front window where families and little children pass by in the malls. At this time every year, there is the inevitable “war over Christmas” where secularism is seeking to remove Christ from Christmas. I am not sure where “pornaments” fit in the war on Christmas, but I can tell you that the reason the Son of God clothed himself with humanity was to identify with such sinners and ultimately die for them. Spencer’s has a slogan which pronounces, “Life’s a Party! We’re makin’ it fun!” As Christians, we need to be reminded that “Life Is War,” and we are here to lay down our lives so that those who think life is fun can see the superior pleasures and infinite worth of knowing Jesus Christ. Spencer’s party will soon come to an end, and terror and torment of an everlasting hell awaits those who believe and live as though Christmas is just a gag gift. No, Christmas is about the supreme gift of God’s Son and the free gift of eternal life which comes only through him. When such sinners understand the real meaning of Christmas by knowing and treasuring Jesus Christ, they will come to know that he has given us life abundantly and a party that will last for an eternity. Indeed, the greatest gift ever given will never be found under a tree but on a tree - a tree called Calvary where the curse of sin was embodied (Gal. 3:13) and the justice of God's wrath was appeased and atoned for by the blood of Jesus Christ (Isa. 53:4-6). Let us pray that, during this Christmas season, those who are making pornaments will meet the Maker of heaven and earth, Immanuel, Son of God, Jesus. "He himself bore our sins in his body on the tree, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness. By his wounds you have been healed." - 1 Peter 2:24 To watch a Christian youth group protest, go here. To read what the news are saying go here.|W|P|116560862689199337|W|P|X-Rated X-Mas: Pornaments and the Gift of Christmas|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/08/2006 05:24:00 AM|W|P|Timmy Brister|W|P|
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Alright. I am about to be a little random here on my weekly POTW post. Please bear with me. First of all, I still don't have my laptop. I wrestled with whether or not to file a complaint with BBB concerning the company who I purchased the laptop from, but I am not that type of guy. But a 1-2 week guarantee has turned into 6 weeks now with no certain return date in the near future! One of the reasons I went with them is because of their high reseller rating and customer service reviews. I guess my situation is an anomaly (at least I hope so). They also state that their purpose in their business is "to become the nations' #1 provider of the products and services that we offer while offering this business up to our Lord Jesus daily as we try to represent how He would want us to live, do business, and share all that He has done in our lives with anyone who comes our way." As a customer, I am hoping to honor Christ by not being a total jerk. But I really would like to have my laptop back sometime . . . Sometime soon, because next weekend, I will be shooting a wedding in Alabama. This will be my second wedding this fall and only my fifth this year (last year I shot around 15). My camera is also still dysfunctional. I figured out the problem, though. The pins which connect the CF card to the camera are bent in two places and I cannot reach them to straighten them out (I probably shouldn't anyway). So I am trying to get it to an authorized Canon technician hoping that it wouldn't be too big of a deal. I really miss taking pictures. :( Which brings me to my third random thought and the setting of this week's photo. The photo was taken on the riverfront in downtown Louisville with a really cold WB (2800K) (for non-photographers, white balance determines the kind of light the camera reads - e.g. flourescent, tungsten, sun, shade, etc.). Anyway, Dan shared with me yesterday that Louisville is getting a new skyscraper called the Museum Plaza which is fascinating to look at. It is a 61 story of three towers that will have an "acre island" hovering 22 stories in the air. Not only that, but it will contain a contemporary art museum, restaurants and retail stores, 85 luxury condominiums, 150 lofts, a 300-room hotel, office space and a 1,100-car underground parking garage. Now, I must say from the superimposed photos, this behemoth sticks out like a sore thumb in the skyline. However, it gives me new incentive to get out and take more pics of downtown Louisville (which have been some of my more popular photos among locals). I guess that wasn't too random. Did I tell you that all I want for Christmas is my 16 gig? That baby is hot! Shooting RAW, I could still knock out about 1700 on one memory card! Oh, and have you checked out the new Extreme IV cards? Man I am a photog junkie. Maybe things can get fixed soon enough to add a little more spice to P&P in the future. In the meantime, I hope you have a wonderful weekend and a Christ-centered holiday season. tnb ** To view my stagnant Flickr page, go here, and for the Friday Photo Group, go here.|W|P|116557583085746880|W|P|POTW :: 12.08.06 :: surreal|W|P|timmybrister@gmail.com12/08/2006 09:04:00 AM|W|P|Blogger DJP|W|P|Isn't that where Will Smith sat and thought about whether to join the Men in Black?12/08/2006 02:09:00 PM|W|P|Blogger William E. Turner Jr.|W|P|Hey - when you get your camera working again if you are interested I would love to get together with you and shoot downtown. Do you know of anyone else at SBTS or around who would like to go shooting?

Some night shooting would be cool too with light up Louisville in affect. I have to find some reasons to use my new camera.

If you are interested let me know.
weturner777 [at] hotmail.com12/08/2006 02:10:00 PM|W|P|Blogger William E. Turner Jr.|W|P|BTW, I am happy to have a 4 gig CF card. 404 RAW pics!12/08/2006 02:15:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|DJP,

Not sure, but I do know it is where I used to take pictures. :)

William,

Dude I would love to. I really would like to get a couple of the skyline with the red and green lights on some of the buildings. Yeah, I say that new 30D you recently purchased. You gonna love it.

I am always looking for new places to shoot.

Earlier this summer I started this game on Flickr for fellow Louisvillian photogs called "Where's Flicko?" It started off well but interest slowing waned. Basically, you go and shoot something around Louisville, post it on Flickr, and the goal is to take the exact same picture and post it juxtaposed to the original. Then that person does the same thing. The result is to go places and shoot where you haven't before and have some fun in the meantime.12/08/2006 02:19:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|William,

I have seen 4GB Ultra II's for only $140 on both Dell and other local sales. This time last year they were around $350! The 4G Extreme III is around $180 I think. Either way, the price on memory cards are dropping considerably, and that makes me happy.

Oh, I think staples has Ultra II 2 GB for $39.99 as well. I think I am going to pick one up before next weekend. How much memory do you have by the way?12/08/2006 02:31:00 PM|W|P|Blogger William E. Turner Jr.|W|P|I just got the 4 Gig yesterday. Paid $80. It is a Transcend 120X from Newegg. It had decent reviews so I thought I would give it a try. I wanted Sandisk but too expensive.

When I first got the 30D (a week ago) I only had two 128MB cards! RAW was impossible. So a whopping total of 4gig + 256mb. I need more, but a tripod is more pressing. I think I am just going to pick up a cheap one to beat around and save up for a Bogen/Manfrotto.

I have been wanting to go around to historic churches in Louisville and take pics. There are a few older Catholic ones downtown and there is a nice gothic one near Shively that I pass on the way to work.

Unfortunately, I work 2nd shift so I could only night shoot on the weekends or early in the morning. I would be willing to get up early though.

This weekend I am preaching so I probably shouldn't go out at night... Let me know when you are available and when is best for you.

Do you know anyone else who would be interested? Just so we don't go downtown with expensive equipment and get mugged! :)12/08/2006 03:20:00 PM|W|P|Blogger Timmy|W|P|There are a couple of guys that I usually go shooting with. We all have the 20D and have different shooting styles which makes it fun.

Right now, I have 10.5 GB of memory (1 4GB, 1 2GB, 4 1GB, and 1 515MB). All those memory cards can be difficult to shuffle through when shooting a lot, so I am trying to go up to using only 2 and 4GB. I've got a friend who shoots weddings professionally and goes through 4GB an hour! Of course, he has over 32GB of memory, so that's no problem for him!

I want to get a back up body sometime in the future. I am thinking about the 30D or 5D and using my current 20D as the backup. Canon also came out with the 70-200 f/4 with IS (which wasn't on the previous version) as well as a fast 17-85 f/2.8 IS lens that are hot. Unfortunately, I am a broke seminary student who ends up buying books instead of camera gear. Actually I haven't purchased any camera gear since last Christmas!

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