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prov·o·ca·tion - something that provokes, arouses, or stimulates. pant - to long eagerly; yearn. a collection of thoughts intended to provoke and inspire. these posts are hoping to encourage people to think, especially Christians, and pant even harder for the waterbrooks of the Lord. If you are not a believer in Christ Jesus, I welcome your perspective and encourage your investigation on these matters.

Wednesday, March 01, 2006

Lloyd-Jones on That Arbitrary Age for Salvation

“Some have said that unless you are a converted when you are an adolescent, you will never be converted at all because the requisite psychological factors can never be there again. What utter rubbish! How unscriptural! I have never seen a more striking conversion than I once saw in a man aged seventy-seven: thank God for that! Age does not make the slightest difference. We are talking about something the Holy Spirit produces. There is as much hope for the man who is shivering on the brink of the grave and of hell as for the adolescent—if you are interested in true conversion, that is. If you are interested in psychological experiences, then I agree, adolescence is the right time for it. Everything is very explosive at that point; you merely strike a match, and there it is. But we are not interested in psychological changes; we are talking about true, Christian, spiritual conversion. And there age, thank God, is a complete irrelevance.”

- From Martyn Lloyd-Jones (1899-1981) – a sermon entitled “Temporary, Counterfeit, and True Conversion”


Blogger iconoclasm said...

Hey timmy,
Someone was telling me about a quote of Lloyd Jones that said something to the effect of, when you preach there should be so much grace that people are apt to take it to far like people accused Paul of doing. Any ideas?

3/01/2006 10:02:00 PM

Blogger Timmy said...

Icono (can I call you that for short?),

I am not aware of such a quote, but then again I am not a Lloyd-Jones expert.

I consider Lloyd-Jones as a sort of 20th century Puritan, and if that is the case, I believe that he would have a balanced emphasis between law and grace.

Concerning what you said, I am not sure what you mean with the statement, "when you preach there should be so much grace that people are apt to take it to far like people accused Paul of doing." Are you saying that people think Paul took preaching grace too far? Overemphasized it? Are you talking about grace towards sinners or being gracious towards one another? Graceful in preaching? Some clarification would help in me being able to comment more specifically what you are talking about.

Let me just take a moment to plug a few works written by Lloyd-Jones which I highly recommend:

Spiritual Depression
Preaching & Preachers
The Cross
Evangelistic Sermons
Romans (14 vol. commentary)
Ephesians (8 vol. commentary)
1 John (5 vol. commentary)
Authentic Christianity
Courageous Christianity
Victorious Christianity
Glorious Christianity
God the Holy Spirit
The Sacred Anointing: The Preaching of Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones by Tony Sargent

3/01/2006 10:53:00 PM


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